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Mike Jeffries (The Abercrombie CEO)

We start our brand-new season with the story of Mike Jeffries, the Abercrombie & Fitch CEO who turned a bankrupt old-school outdoors brand into a late-90s/early-00s temple of exclusionary “cool."

We start our brand-new season with the story of Mike Jeffries, the Abercrombie & Fitch CEO who turned a bankrupt old-school outdoors brand into a late-90s/early-00s temple of exclusionary “cool."  Surely you remember the ads, or maybe you remember the stores: the pumping music, the blasts of cologne that made your throat close up, the shutters across the front of the store, as if this little corner of a suburban shopping mall was actually an exclusive nightclub.  Or maybe you remember the Bruce Weber-shot soft-porn catalogue, which once featured an essay by (yes! no!) Slavoj Zizek.  Clothes for homophobic bullies were made in marketed from a self-hating gay sensibility: and the story of Mike Jeffries might be the single solitary key to understanding how the aesthetics of the closet became mainstream marketing, how a gay aesthetic was used to sell homophobic masculinity and how that tension crushed employees and turned its visionary into a monster now credibly accused of sexual assault and harassment.

For more on Mike Jeffries, read the sources we used to research this episode:

Netflix: White Hot - The Rise and Fall of Abercrombie and Fitch

BBC: World of Secrets - The Abercrombie Guys

https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/an-oral-history-of-abercrombie-and-fitch

 

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/the-story-behind-fitch-the-homeless

 

https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2012/oct/18/abercrombie-fitch-boss-extraordinary-male-model-demands

 

https://wwd.com/fashion-news/fashion-scoops/feature/fashion-photographer-bruce-weber-and-male-models-end-legal-battles-1234907151/

 

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ce8vmy56yero

 

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/abercrombie-fitch-ceo-corporate-jet-rulebook_n_1980960

 

https://www.salon.com/2006/01/24/jeffries/

 

https://www.advocate.com/crime/abercrombie-fitch-mike-jeffries-dementia

 

https://www.theguardian.com/global/2024/sep/14/i-constantly-was-saying-no-ex-abercrombie-fitch-boss-accused-of-abuse-at-global-sex-events

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/10/22/former-abercrombie-ceo-mike-jeffries-arrested-in-sex-trafficking-case.html\

 

https://www.businessinsider.com/michael-jeffries-partner-is-too-involved-2013-5

 

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/02/former-abercrombie-fitch-ceo-accused-of-exploiting-young-men-for-sex

 

https://www.dazeddigital.com/fashion/article/55905/1/abercrombie-fitch-netflix-documentary-sexual-exploitation-racism-bruce-weber

 

https://www.justice.gov/usao-edny/pr/former-ceo-abercrombie-fitch-and-two-other-individuals-charged-sex-trafficking-and

 

https://archive.ph/JUDyD

 

https://www.thecut.com/2014/02/why-abercrombie-is-losing-its-shirt.html#

 

https://monoskop.org/images/d/db/A_and_F_Quarterly_Back_to_School_2003_The_Sex_Ed_Issue.pdf

 

https://www.complex.com/style/a/emilyl/revisiting-absurd-critical-theory-abercrombies-2003-back-school-catalog

 

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/apr/19/abercrombie-fitch-netflix-documentary-fashion-discrimination

 

https://archive.ph/HdrvF

 

https://archive.ph/W0YZo

 

https://archive.ph/pAoOR

 

https://www.classaction.org/media/abercrombie-indictment.pdf

 

https://www.theguardian.com/business/interactive/2012/oct/19/abercrombie-fitch-aircraft-standards-manual?INTCMP=ILCNETTXT3487

 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB876176611622798500

 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/13/style/mario-testino-bruce-weber-harassment.html

 

https://web.archive.org/web/20170614225056/https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2015-01-22/the-aging-of-abercrombie-fitch-i58ltcqx

Our intro music is Arpeggia Colorix by Yann Terrien, downloaded from WFMU's Free Music Archive and distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Our outro music is by DJ Michaeloswell Graphicsdesigner.Michael Oswell is the voice of Slavoj Zizek.

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Special Episode: Liza’s Bad Gays

The one and only Liza through the stories of the bad gays who shaped her life.

Happy pride! Gather around, we've got a story to tell! For Stonewall weekend, a special treat: writer, critic, and journalist Cameron Cook joins Ben to talk about the one and only Liza through the stories of the bad (and good) gays in her life, from her father Vincente Minnelli to her first husband Peter Allen to her diabolical fourth husband David Gest. Liza learned on her (and our) mother Judy Garland's knee how to survive by appealing to gay guys. Gay guys used Judy, then Liza to self-fashion. None of it is particularly healthy, and yet we love it so.

Our main source for this episode was Liza's new memoir, Kids, Wait Til You Hear This!, and Cameron's newsletter Cooked, with monthly essays and regular music playlists for pop culture obsessives, can be found here.

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Mandelson: A Homosexual History

Peter Mandelson's decades-long political career is a skeleton key to everything that's gone wrong in Western politics in the last forty years. Our five-part miniseries breaks it down.

They call him the prince of darkness.

Peter Mandelson's decades-long political career is a skeleton key to everything that's gone wrong in Western politics in the last forty years. He's a spin doctor, a sometime minister, and a networker whose downfall through the Epstein files now threatens the survival of the British government. This miniseries examines his gay life and times, tracing the collapse of mass politics, the emergence of neoliberalism, and the political history of homosexuality in the UK, from decriminalisation to Section 28, from Sleaze to Gay Marriage. A Faustian story, Mandelson: A Homosexual History plays out on a world-historical scale, but at its heart is driven by the failures and compromises of greed and lust.

Stay a week ahead by subscribing to Extra Bad Gays on Patreon or Apple Podcasts.

SOURCES:

SOURCES:

Mandelson and the making of New Labour, Donald Macintyre

Mandy: The Unauthorised Biography of Peter Mandelson, Paul Routledge

Outrageous! The Story of Section 28 and Britain's Battle for LGBT Education, Paul Baker

Tory Pride and Prejudice: The Conservative Party and homosexual law reform, Michael McManus

The Rivals : the intimate story of a political marriage, James Naughtie

Bloody Nasty People, Daniel Trilling

Clampdown: Pop-Cultural wars on class and Gender, Rhian E. Jones

1997: The Future That Never Happened, Richard Power Sayeed

Authentocrats: Culture, Politics and the New Seriousness, Joe Kennedy

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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/jan/25/mandelson.labour6

https://ntouk.wordpress.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/11/wilsons-white-heat-of-technology-speech.pdf

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https://jennifrazer.com/mandelson-judaism-lord-levy-jc-dad/

https://johnmajorarchive.org.uk/1993/10/08/mr-majors-speech-to-1993-conservative-party-conference-8-october-1993/

https://www.parliament.uk/business/lords/house-of-lords-podcast/lord-mandelson-lord-speakers-corner/

https://newhistories.sites.sheffield.ac.uk/volumes/2011-12/volume-3/issue-7-open-theme/the-long-road-to-repeal-the-labour-party-and-section-28

https://www.newsweek.com/one-bonk-and-youre-out-181768

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2001/jan/25/mandelson.labour6

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/oct/03/mandelson.labour2

https://www.thepinknews.com/2020/12/23/peter-mandelson-boris-johnson-bum-boys-about-homophobic-attack/

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https://www.theguardian.com/uk/1999/nov/17/northernireland.guardianleaders

https://www.bbc.com/news/business-68079300

https://www.thetimes.com/uk/politics/article/peter-mandelson-why-its-taken-me-27-years-to-marry-the-love-of-my-life-3gx8cfgs5

https://www.stonewall.org.uk/resources/lgbtq-hubs/trans-hub/gender-recognition-act-2004

https://www.economist.com/briefing/2007/05/10/the-great-performer-leaves-the-stage

https://www.tuc.org.uk/sites/default/files/extras/lgbt09.pdf

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/oct/13/mandelson-lords

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2008/oct/13/mandelson-gayrights

https://www.theguardian.com/travel/2008/oct/25/corfu-rothschild-russia-osborne-travel

https://www.politico.eu/article/mandelson-backed-by-commission/

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/mar/22/former-trump-campaign-chief-paul-manafort-offered-help-putin-russia

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article384041.ece

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https://labourlist.org/2017/02/mandelson-i-am-working-every-day-to-bring-down-corbyn/

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2026/apr/27/mandelson-and-mcsweeney-a-partnership-forged-on-winning-and-crushing-the-labour-left

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